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- Ham-Policy Digest Sat, 1 Oct 94 Volume 94 : Issue 472
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- Today's Topics:
- Get Over It
- Glass houses and those who live in them
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- Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 21:04:35 GMT
- From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!eff!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!olivea!news.hal.COM!darkstar.UCSC.EDU!nic.scruz.net!cruzio!brettb@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Get Over It
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- Date: 30 Sep 1994 20:32:52 GMT
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- Subject: Glass houses and those who live in them
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
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- In article <Bo1U4Jl.brunelli_pc@delphi.com> brunelli_pc@delphi.com writes:
-
- >Why is there no discussion on proposed rule changes? ....
- >How about a proposal for a band plan that would keep HF digital healthy
- >and protect QRPers, and other brass pounding types (myself included).
-
- Given the current FCC sub-band set up, I don't see much room to wiggle. The
- digital modes are getting more popular, so they are naturally going to
- spread out. They can't spread up from where the are -- they'd hit the voice
- bands, from which they are prohibited. They can't (or at least shouldn't)
- spread down from where they are -- they'd hit the QRP frequencies. The
- QRP'ers, being largely rockbound, can't move. If the digital stuff hops
- over the QRP frequencies and goes down farther, they'd soon wipe out all the
- CW bandwidth outside the Extra sliver.
-
- So to try to come up with a solution, it looks to me like we need to either
- knock down the voice vs. data barrier, or let the "yahoos" into the the
- Extras' remaining preserves . While I hate slippery slope arguments, it
- sure seems to me that moves like that would basically be the end of
- "incentive licensing". I personally don't think that would be a bad thing,
- but it's sort of scary to think about proposing it..
-
- Rich
-
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- Rich McAllister (rfm@eng.sun.com)
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- Perhaps I'm *lazy* or merely uninspired, but I really would prefer to spend my
- limited time learning modern digital modes, both radio and landline, than CW.
- I would really love to learn more about VHF/UHF/Microwave though.
-
- It does seem a little *peculiar* to me to spend hour upon hour learning to
- tap out morse digital at 20wpm so I can exchange "Hi, I use a <<insert radio
- name here>> and a <<insert antenna name here>> and I am located at <<insert QTH
- here>> and am a <<insert license class here>> and my call is <<insert call
- here>> and so forth"; "communications" that is restricted in terms of content to
- remarks of a "personnal or technical nature". Especially in the context of
- being able to use the Internet for world-wide communications with all the
- abilities of mail, chat, newsgroups, gopher, WWW and so forth with virtually no
- restrictions as to content.
-
- It seems to me that with the predominance of no-code techs and the competition
- of the Internet that it would be in the best interests of the ARRL and its
- "elmer" system to provide an upgrade path that parallels in VHF/UHF/Microwave
- what the CW/HF folks are doing in their end of the spectrum. I'm really not
- all that concerned (at least at this point) in "horning in" on the HF bands
- at least as long as the primary hoop to leap through is high speed code...
- after two years of communications electronics through CIE (graduated Alpha Beta
- Kappa, no biggee but it does show some interest and application) I AM
- interested in learning modern modes and expanding my abilities in the "higher
- reaches" and would like to see an organized "upgrade path" in that direction.
-
- I know I can pass the written tests through extra (at least I've scored over
- 90% over every computer-generated test I've taken at the keyboard for the
- last two years ;@} and I take at least one in every license class a month to
- keep myself in gear, just in case. ;@} ) but what I'd like to see is
- training manuals and testing and perhaps certification through the ARRL that
- would show knowledge and ability in the various modern modes and techniques
- in the frequencies allotted to tech class hams.
-
- This would benefit the largest group of new hams, advance the state of radio
- art, preserve the bands for amateurs from frequency-hungry communications
- providers (no one is using CW I know of) and provide operators for emergency
- communications (here in California during the Loma Prieta Earthquake
- aftermath, it was NOT CW that "saved the day" but, as written up in all the
- major newspapers, it was "portable packet"--HT's and laptops-- that did the
- important radio work. At the local Junior College, the Red Cross was NOT
- asking for CW operators in the emergency but telecommunications and database
- -proficient computer operators.)
-
- Until the "amateur ranks" (and they seem to be exemplifying the worst aspects
- of the title "amateur" in their rationalization of the CW dominance in terms
- of testing) "get over it" and join the rest of the communications world in
- terms of priorities, I think I'll spend my time increasing my typing speed
- instead, a parallel and more essential skill in today's real world. In terms of
- communications technology, I'll be studying Novell and upgrading my Internet
- skills. I wish Ham radio provided more training in modern radio communications.
- If such an "upgrade path" exists, I'd welcome any information you can provide.
- With all the cutbacks in the military, you'd think that there would be an
- infusion of trainers, equipment, and materials into ham radio, as after WWII,
- but I haven't seen anything like that, am I looking in the wrong places?
-
- THX de KC6UPU, grid CM86XX.
- --
- Brett Breitwieser (brettb@cruzio.com)
- Clinical Hypnotherapist (Certified by the National Guild of Hypnotists)
- Director, Axis Mundi: *Axis Mundi* as the Image of *Proto Phallos*
- Member, Therapists for Social Responsibility
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